Episode 6

You feel tired but your labs are 'normal'? Dr. Angel Hill explains

You adjust your sleep. You take the supplements. You push through your daily schedule.

Yet mid-afternoon arrives—and your energy completely bottoms out.

Too often, women in midlife sit in clinical offices only to be told that their routine lab panels are "completely normal," even when their daily stamina and mental focus tell a radically different story.

Your body is not failing you. It is a biological dashboard delivering continuous, precise feedback.

In this episode of Vibrant Second Act, Yolanda Russo sits down with Dr. Angel Hill, Doctor of Naturopathy and Master Iridologist with more than 7,000 clinical eye assessments completed. Dr. Angel explains how the eyes offer a direct, non-invasive window into internal stress pathways, revealing adrenal fatigue, elevated cortisol patterns, and systemic inflammation long before conventional tests register a functional shift.

Together, they dismantle the idea that midlife exhaustion is an inevitable consequence of aging. You learn how to identify the subtle biological cues of chronic adrenal stress, how to interpret your body's communication with confidence, and how to put practical, daily restorative habits in place.

Vitality does not happen by accident—it happens by choice. When you possess the tools to understand your own physiology, you step out of guesswork and stand firmly in command of your healthspan.

Inside the Conversation

  • Beyond the "Normal" Lab Trap: Why standard lab markers frequently overlook functional fatigue, leaving accomplished women feeling dismissed and depleted.
  • The Iris as a Biological Dashboard: How the vascular and nervous system connections in the eyes map out underlying adrenal strain, gut stress, and systemic inflammation.
  • The Adrenal Stress Loop: What occurs at a cellular level when stress hormones remain persistently elevated without adequate biological recovery.
  • Listening to Early Biological Cues: How to read subtle physical warnings—from energy dips to sleep disruptions—before they manifest as deeper metabolic issues.
  • Restoring Cellular Stamina: Concrete daily habits and foundational nourishment practices designed to calm an overworked nervous system and restore sustained stamina.
  • Reclaiming Biological Agency: Shifting away from fear-based symptoms toward structured, empowered daily routines that put you back in charge.

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Transcript
Speaker A:

It doesn't matter what birthday you just celebrated.

What you see in the mirror is never the whole story.

Aging is natural.

But how you age, that is all in your hands.

Welcome back to Vibrant Second act.

You take the supplements, you try to adjust your diet, your sleep.

Yet you feel tired.

So you go online and you start searching.

Why am I so tired?

Why I can't sleep?

What is the reason for this?

My doctor runs blood work and says those four words that I never wanted to hear.

Your labs are normal.

I've heard that million times before.

You probably have too.

And you still feel exhausted and you still feel frustrated.

Let's introduce this special guest to you today, Dr. Angel Hill, Dr. Of naturopathy.

She is master iridologist.

It's a specialist that looks into your eyes and detects everything that is happening in your body.

She's a creator of iris hormone therapy.

With over 7,000 eye readings completed, she can detect all the things that are referring to maybe your hormone hormonal dysfunction, cortisol spike.

Today we are going to ask Dr. Hill questions about internal vibrancy.

Welcome, Dr. Angel.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm so happy to start talking about iridology and hormones.

Speaker A:

Yes.

So please tell us a little bit about this, this very unique aspect of your work.

Where does this originated?

Is this Chinese traditional medicine?

Speaker B:

So actually it is been practiced all over the world.

They have found the maps, the iridology maps in Africa, China, all over the place.

So it's not just a Chinese medicine.

In King Tut, you may, you know, King Tut's tomb, they pulled out three of the iris hormone maps.

So it's definitely been around a while.

modernized in Germany in the:

And in the:

I am in Florida and if you'd like, I can tell you a little bit about what the map tells us, if you want.

Would you like to hear that?

Speaker A:

Yes, absolutely.

We're so interested.

Yes.

Maybe there was some hope for many of us who are searching, searching, searching.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

So there's 28,000 nerve endings that come into the eye.

So anything that hits a nerve, I should be able to see.

And everybody's like, well, that's a lot of nerve endings.

But if you think about it, we have 14,000 nerve endings that go into our feet.

And a lot of people are familiar with reflexology where, you know, certain parts of your feet relate to certain parts of your body.

So the iris map is a lot like that.

There's parts of our eye that map to different parts of our body.

And so that's what I'm looking at.

I'm looking for variations of the eye that tell me something's happening, particularly for instance, in your spine or in your hormones or in your thyroid is a big one.

Speaker A:

So things like that, that's just so amazing.

And not many doctors can ascribe to that methodology.

So you're very unique in that.

How do you respond to women who come with labs to you?

And.

And the labs are okay?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

So two things on that.

First off, I would like to clarify that iridology isn't diagnostic.

It's just you be used along with other things.

And so a lot of times, one of the biggest ones with women in particular is I'll look in their eye and I'll see their thyroid is out of balance.

And I will say, okay, are you gaining weight?

Are you losing weight?

Your hair falling out, all the things that come with thyroid imbalance?

And they'll say, yes.

But doctor tells me my thyroid numbers are normal.

So that's when I bring in something called functional blood chemistry analysis.

And that is looking at lab work in a different way.

So you have the same numbers, but your.

Your range is separate.

So we're looking at not is somebody in disease, but are they living the best healthy, vital life they can?

You know, is their vitality good?

And so when you look at it that way, a lot of times you'll see that either the doctor didn't run everything they should run for the testing, particularly for thyroid.

I find this is very common.

They don't run all the tests they should.

And secondly, they look like one number and say, well, your TSH is fine, so we're good.

And that's where I come in with my naturopath background and say, okay, let's get your thyroid better.

So everything else is better.

Speaker A:

No, that's wonderful.

That gives a lot of hope to many women who are definitely feeling bloated, exhausted, despite of all of those lab work and doctor visits.

So what is one thing you would want women to know about their hormones before they get to the point where they are completely disappointed with the conventional wisdom?

Speaker B:

Well, you know, I tell people, and I think you have some pillars too, but I have like three things that I like to people to do every morning to balance their hormones.

And what we don't realize is that our hormones are not only the cortisol, but it's also insulin.

So our blood sugar is a hormone, thyroid, sex hormones.

So we have these things, if they're not balanced, we get brain fog.

Our gut can kid feel bad.

So all it contributes to our overall feeling, you know, well or not well.

And so I tell people I think one of theirs is like yours is like getting exercise.

So I love people to get 10 minutes outside every morning, preferably when the sun's coming up.

So I do that by exercising.

I walk around the block while that's happening.

But you could go outside and eat your breakfast.

You could take a walk with your dog.

So getting that 10 minutes outside really helps set our cortisol levels.

So they're high in the morning and low at night.

And then I like 30 grams of protein in the morning for breakfast because that really sets the insulin levels and helps you not be hangry through the day, which we know causes us to do all kinds of things.

We get headaches and all kinds of things.

And then finally, I'm someone who believes that we're getting enough vitamins in our food, but we're not getting enough minerals.

Our minerals have been just ripped out of the soil.

And so I like everyone to have an electrolyte in the morning because electrolytes, those minerals, they help spark not only our hormones, but they keep us from having high blood pressure.

They help with headaches and all kinds of things.

So those are my three things I really wish women could kind of do regularly to help regulate their hormones.

And then if they're doing that and there's another issue, then we can kind of work from there, maybe bring supplements in.

Speaker A:

So I agree with all that.

But not many women understand why would they do this?

Why would they go outside?

What is the reason and the timing?

Why can't I just go in the midday and do this?

You see what I'm saying?

So let's go to explaining what happens during the morning sunlight, how it affects our circadian rhythm.

Maybe that will help for someone to just convince themselves that this is the routine that I need to do, not that I just wish I did.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

And by the way, going out in the middle day is good too.

Anytime you can get outside, it gives your body so much information about what's happening.

But if you think about something called the cortisol curve, it's in the morning we want our cortisol high because that gives us energy, and at night we want it low.

And corp is part of the circadian rhythm.

A lot of people think about circadian rhythm as just when our sleeping but circadian rhythm is all day long.

So when we get up in the morning, we want to have that energy.

And by looking at the sun or just even being outside, even if it's a cloudy day, what that's doing is we have literal receptors in our eyes that actually accept this sun and tell our body, hey, it's time to produce the hormones.

It's time to use those electrolytes.

It's time to do everything, to wake up and get going.

And then I always tell people it's a bonus to get that midday sun.

But if you do it at night as well, when the sun is going down, that tells your body, again, let's get into sleep mode.

And I have clients, and if they.

They all say, I just don't believe this.

I don't want to do it.

I'm like, try it for one week.

And if you do it for one week, you really notice a difference.

The first thing they notice is they have more energy, and then they're, okay, I want to do it another week.

And usually by the end of the second week, they're sleeping so much better because their body has just gotten to this natural rhythm.

And I think what we forget is that we used to live by the sun and the moon.

We didn't have electric lights.

And so I think if we can remember that, that helps us remember why we need that sunlight.

Speaker A:

Definitely important to know that that's how things work in our body.

But to simplify this, the blue light in the morning builds up the cortisol.

The blue light energizes you enough.

Now at night, you have the orange light.

The orange light helps us to release melatonin, which is the sleep chemicals.

So it helps us to.

Speaker B:

It's a hormone as well.

Melatonin as well.

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So if you only know those two things that the.

The morning is to wake you up and to energize you.

And night, night light, the orange light, is to calm you down, to wind you down from the day.

Is this the eyes or the skin that absorbs everything?

Like the cells.

Speaker B:

There's actually receptors in the eye.

They've proven that.

That's like a medical.

Yeah, they've proven the receptors in the eye are actually what control their circadian rhythm.

The skin is actually, what, Vitamin D.

Speaker A:

In open the eyes, you don't have to look directly into the sun, but just.

Speaker B:

Yeah, as long as you're not wearing glasses, you don't need.

And you don't want to have your phone in front of you.

I tell people that.

But you can be on a porch.

It doesn't even.

You don't even have to be out in the sun as long as you're looking out.

That's the thing.

You don't want to be behind a window, though.

Speaker A:

That's perfect.

And so that was the first thing you have mentioned.

Speaker B:

The second thing is 30 grams of protein.

And the electrolytes were my other two.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Yes.

Many women choose to have quick snack or they.

They don't even feed themselves for breakfast.

They just have coffee and they're running.

And this is.

Can you explain to us what happens during the time when we are not giving the energy, giving the proteins to our body first thing in the morning, but giving the carbs or maybe coffee to jolt us up?

Speaker B:

I'd actually like to start about with a coffee.

Coffee is an interesting one.

I don't have a problem with people drinking coffee as long as they're not putting too much junk in it.

But if you drink coffee alone in the morning without anything else, you're actually raising your blood sugars.

And anytime we have a spike in our blood sugar that's not healthy for our brain, it makes us feel bad for that's the first thing we feel, is we feel bad, we feel tired, we'll get headaches, but long term, it actually can cause things like Alzheimer's.

So we don't want these spikes in our blood, our blood sugar.

And so when you're drinking that coffee, I want you to make sure you're either putting some coconut oil in it with some good fat that's going to help you not have that issue or eat some protein with it.

But what protein does is protein balances that blood sugar.

So we're not getting those spikes.

So we don't want to be on a roller coaster through the day.

We want to be real balanced through the day.

And even if you decide at lunch, say that you want to eat a donut, that protein that you ate in the morning is going to help your spike not go quite as high when you do that donut as if you hadn't had that protein in the morning.

When we're eating sugar and carbs in the morning for breakfast, all we're doing is setting ourselves up for a roller coaster and we'll just not feel well.

Speaker A:

Yes.

So when we have the sugary things for breakfast like toast and jelly or a donut, we crash in about two hours.

The best way to offset that is start with the proteins.

So that's the second and the third.

Speaker B:

One was the electrolytes because we've farmed so many minerals out of our system and electrolytes are good for so many things.

They help people with blood pressure headaches spike, sparking the hormones so that they work correctly.

That's one of the other things that I find that clients, when they can get their minerals balanced, things completely change.

And you mentioned earlier, like people not even eating breakfast in the morning.

I still want them to take their electrolytes, but I want them to eat their breakfast.

And I had a client just last week, she's 56 or I would talk to her last week after we've been working for a while together.

She's 56 years old and she was not eating the breakfast, she was not doing the electrolytes.

And we really came to find out she was not eating enough.

And when I talked to her last week, what happened?

Within one month she started eating and she's lost five pounds.

So she's getting the energy from the electrolyte, she's getting the energy from the food now and she's feeling so much better.

So it's amazing if we can just do some basic things and get enough food.

But I think society tells us that we need to eat less, eat less, eat less.

And sometimes we need to eat more.

Speaker A:

A grain of Celtic salt or even Himalayan salt would be a good start on the electrolytes path, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, it does have minerals in it.

I actually, I'm a big fan of bio optimizers minerals.

But yeah, I use real salt because it comes from this country.

So I like that it doesn't have to fly all over the place.

You can actually test minerals through hair.

So that's a good way to know what's going on.

Speaker A:

And you do that as well.

You test the hair?

Speaker B:

I do.

I like, I love blood testing but I like mineral testing through the hair because you see a three month snapshot where the blood you only see like what's happening right at that moment.

Speaker A:

That is so interesting.

So can you take us through your session?

What actually happens during the.

Speaker B:

Most people start with me with just a one session.

I also have a membership but we'll start with what happens that one session.

So people send me pictures of their eyes.

So I want three photos of each eye and you just do it with your cell phone and have somebody get really close to the eye.

Everybody's always worried about if their eye photo is good enough.

It's usually always good enough.

Especially because I get three, I can really put the eye together.

And then if you want to, you can send Any blab work that you have as well.

Well, and so what I do between the time that you send me that and the time that we speak, I look at your eyes first.

That's always the first thing I do.

And I see what hormonal issues maybe go on, if their gut issues are a big thing that I look at the spine particularly.

I work with a lot of women over 50, so there's a lot of joint issues that we look at and that sometimes from hormonal issues actually can cause joint issues, low estrogen.

So that's something we look at as well.

So I look at the whole picture.

Then I take their lab work and then it's a conversation when we get on the phone.

This is what I see.

Tell me if having these symptoms and we kind of go from there and then if they choose to, they can work with me further.

And that's when we could bring in the hair tissue mineral analysis and other kinds of testing.

Speaker A:

That is so fascinating.

And you can do this online?

Speaker B:

Yes.

So I've been doing that.

I've been doing this 16 years, but I've been doing it online about 10 years and it's so much easier now than it was 10 years ago.

Speaker A:

Wonderful.

So if someone wanted to work with you or learn from you.

Speaker B:

Yes.

So if they want to go to angelhill online.com it's a n G E L H I l l online.com you can look on there to get sign up for my newsletter and that'll actually I have pictures which shows you.

It's a video, it's 10 minutes and it shows you How I go through the eye is really fascinating.

Speaker A:

Yes.

I absolutely love your work and I hope many of us will take advantage of of the knowledge that you are posting on the free gift you're offering there.

I will post this in my show notes so everyone can go and click on the link and find you.

Thank you so much.

We all want to feel vibrant regardless of our age and this is possible, isn't it?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

You know, a lot of women say that after 50 their hormones haven't stopped working, but doctors think they have, you know, and I just want you to know all your listeners to know that you there are people out there that can help you.

If your doctor says no, keep looking.

There are people that can help you.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Thank you so much, Dr. Hill.

We are so thrilled to get to know you and hopefully maybe we can speak to you about some other topics in the future.

Speaker B:

All right, thank you so much.

About the Podcast

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Yolanda Russo

Yolanda Russo is a pro-aging expert and holistic wellness mentor with over two decades of experience guiding women through midlife into their most confident chapter.

As the host of Vibrant Second Act, Yolanda helps women over fifty step out of feeling invisible or stuck and reconnect with their innate vitality. Her approach bridges practical science with soulful self-care, showing that the body and mind already know how to self-repair, restore, and renew when given the right daily prompts.

Through practical solo guides and inspiring conversations with wellness thinkers and spiritual teachers, Yolanda shares realistic ways to restore energy, calm the nervous system, and reclaim confidence. Grounded in the foundational pillars of nutrition, oxygen, posture, and exercise, her mission is to give women back true agency over their health and aging—empowering you to feel seen, heard, and deeply at home in your skin.